Holy Fools and the Soul of Craftwork
Join PhD and professional juggler Jesse Joyner, and PhD and minister Stephen Grosz as they interview people in diverse crafts and trades (from beekeepers to song writers to sword swallowers). Through a discussion of relevant learning research and Scripture, the Holy Fools consider how integrating one’s faith and work, as a craft, might serve to feed and form the soul.
Episodes

Wednesday Jan 07, 2026
Wednesday Jan 07, 2026
From Tree to Table—join Holy Fools (Jesse Joyner, PhD. and Stephen Grosz, PhD.) as they interview Virginia-based furniture maker Sallie Plumley. To check out Sallie's work go to sallieplumleystudio.com.

Wednesday Nov 19, 2025
Wednesday Nov 19, 2025
The Trees Have It! Join Holy Fools (Jesse Joyner, PhD. and Stephen Grosz, PhD.) as they interview nationally ranked tree climber & arborist Chris Depriest. In the episode Chris shares how trees speak to us of the glory of God.

Wednesday Apr 23, 2025
Wednesday Apr 23, 2025
Join Holy Fools (Jesse Joyner, PhD. and Stephen Grosz, PhD.) as they interview veteran radio broadcaster and bay area pastor René Schlaepfer. In the episode René reveals how a well crafted voice can speak to the glory of God.
To learn more about Annie Joyner's medical journey please go to her CaringBridge page: https://www.caringbridge.org/site/4eb465d8-eb04-11ef-b7f4-519b90d7f68d?utm_source=website_share&utm_medium=share_button&utm_term=&utm_content=link_share_button&utm_campaign=private_home_page

Thursday Dec 05, 2024
Thursday Dec 05, 2024
Join Holy Fools (Jesse Joyner, PhD. and Stephen Grosz, PhD.) as they get festive with professional Santa Clause, Rich Patsios, and consider how spreading Christmas cheer can be high level craftwork and a calling.
More information on the work Rich does can be found at:
https://www.baptistpress.com/resource-library/news/pastors-working-as-santas-bring-joy-extend-ministry-to-others-during-holidays/

Monday Nov 25, 2024
Monday Nov 25, 2024
Join the Holy Fools (Jesse Joyner, PhD. and Stephen Grosz, PhD.) as they weigh what breakthroughs are possible when we learn to hold our work lightly. What happens when concepts such as emergent design theory are mashed up against the playful doodling of a daydreamer?
Resources Mentioned in the Episode:
Sigart, Miguel. 2014. Play Matters.
Sjöberg, Barbro. 2009. Design Theory and Design Practice within Sloyd Education. International Journal of Art & Design Education.

Tuesday Nov 12, 2024
Tuesday Nov 12, 2024
Join Holy Fools (Jesse Joyner, PhD. and Stephen Grosz, PhD.) as they explore the beautiful mess of visual art with Richmond based artist Sara Tuttle.
To get an eyeful of Sara's work, her current exhibit can be found at the Shockoe Artspace in Richmond, Virginia. For more information go to: https://shockoeartspace.com/project/in-the-thick-of-it or https://www.saraptuttle.com/

Tuesday Oct 15, 2024
Tuesday Oct 15, 2024
Join Holy Fools (Jesse Joyner, PhD. and Stephen Grosz, PhD.) as they launch into season 2 and explore the calling of professional racing with driver Sting Ray Robb. The episode includes a discussion of craftwork curiosities such as:
- How to capture learning while failing at high speeds
- How to promote your work without feeling like a shady mercenary.
To learn more about Sting Ray and his work: www.stingrayrobb.com

Thursday Jun 20, 2024
Thursday Jun 20, 2024
Join Holy Fools (Jesse Joyner, PhD. and Stephen Grosz, PhD.) as they conclude season 1 with a look toward faith and work in the future.
For listener feedback/questions please reach out at JoynerJuggling@gmail.com

Monday May 27, 2024
Monday May 27, 2024
Join Holy Fools (Jesse Joyner, PhD. and Stephen Grosz, PhD.) as they interview professional photographer Tracey Riggs Frontz — and learn how we can all develop an trained eye for viewing God's creation.

Tuesday Apr 02, 2024
Tuesday Apr 02, 2024
Join Holy Fools (Jesse Joyner, PhD. and Stephen Grosz, PhD.) as they consider how a pre-work routine of spiritual stretching might transform your workday.
Resources Mentioned in the Episode:
Feiler, Bruce. 2023. The Search: Finding Meaningful Work in a Post-Career World.
Martin, Tom. 2021. Craft Learning as Perceptual Transformation: Getting ‘the Feel’ in the Wooden Boat Workshop.
Daniels, Denise. 2019. Working in the Presence of God: Spiritual Practices for Everyday Work.









